Subject: Cider Digest #1450, 27 May 2008 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:27:24 -0600 (MDT) From: cider-request@talisman.com Cider Digest #1450 27 May 2008 Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor Contents: digest email changes soon (Cider Digest Admin) RE: Cider Digest #1449, 21 May 2008 (New Forest Cider) Cortland "perfumey"? (Dick Dunn) Re: Cider Digest #1449, 21 May 2008 (Steury and Noel family) Send ONLY articles for the digest to cider@talisman.com. Use cider-request@talisman.com for subscribe/unsubscribe/admin requests. When subscribing, please include your name and a good address in the message body unless you're sure your mailer generates them. Archives of the Digest are available at www.talisman.com/cider ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: digest email changes soon From: cider-request@talisman.com (Cider Digest Admin) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:43:42 -0600 (MDT) I'll be making some changes to email handling for the digest very soon--between this digest and the next one. The intent is that there be no visible difference, just sort of rearranging the electronic furniture within talisman.com. However, if you do see a problem, please let me know at cider-request@talisman.com tnx ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Cider Digest #1449, 21 May 2008 From: New Forest Cider Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:34:50 +0000 Re Normandy trip recommendations. Going to Normandy several times,a very good place to visit is Cambremer near Lisieux,they have a 'Route de Cidre' organised by their local tourist office,and it's in the centre of the Pays d'auge Calvados area. A very good Calvados producer is Etienne Dupont he has a website www.calvados-dupont.com and is wellworth a visit and the host speaks english fluently. Also of possible interest south-east of Lisieux near Marrolles on the RN13 is the Cidricole of Ruaux et Fils a large countrystore John Deere agents but sell all the paraphinalia from applepickers,tree guards to bottles,washers,filters etc ,you name it they will most likely stock it,I think they supply most of the cidermakers in that area of Normandy. If you like Poire (perry) I would head south to Domfront as that is the best area for perry. Have a good trip. Barry Topp New Forest Cider ------------------------------ Subject: Cortland "perfumey"? From: Dick Dunn Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 23:54:17 -0600 Last year I had enough excess Cortland fruit to try a couple variations. First one into bottle, just recently, was pure Cortland (odd choice perhaps, but Claude has done notably well with it). It is low-tannin as expected, perhaps a bit high in acidity but not bad, and I decided to bottle it with a fair bit of carbonation as a "summer cider"--it's not assertive but quite refreshing as such. The puzzle is that I get a flowery note from it as it warms up a bit. Shawn Carney was here last weekend and we tasted it then; Shawn commented on it just as I was about to do so. It's somewhat sweet, seems sweeter than apple-blossom scent (I think maybe possibly perhaps). Reminds me of just a slight hint of Lily of the Valley, which comes to mind because it's in bloom right here right now. I noticed it last weekend and again several times this week (finishing off the last of the keg after bottling). Anybody else notice this with Cortland? If you have a cider with Cortland in it, would you plz look for this effect? Cortland seems to me to be an under-appreciated, yet puzzling, apple for part or all of a cider. - -- Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1449, 21 May 2008 From: Steury and Noel family Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:16:00 -0700 re: Chris Horn, perry grafting >Am I off my rocker for playing with things >that will not bear for 25 years? From what I've learned, you're adopting the mindset that the French cider culture is built on. When we were in the Pays d'Auge last spring, we stood next to an orchard in which the oldest trees were 200+ years old. All of the haute tige (the big trees,versus basse tige) orchards are double-grafted. The second graft is made at a minimum of five years, as I recall. The farmer who owned the orchard and made cider from it said, "You don't plant an orchard for yourself." You also recall the aphorism that "planting a tree is an act of faith." - -- Tim Steury and Diane Noel 1021 McBride Road Potlatch, ID 83855 208.875.0804 ------------------------------ End of Cider Digest #1450 *************************